Uhm, who else is now more excited than ever? :D
Jennifer Morrison about her favorite scene in Once Upon A Time:
“Probably that last scene with Sheriff Graham… I mean not only was I kissing one of the hottest man on the planet… Which you know, was okay”
Read with caution — spoilers abound! It’s lengthy but TOTALLY worth it! ;)
In this week’s episode, we again saw Emma placing a lot of faith in her “super-power” of being able to tell when someone’s lying to her, but Sidney’s been playing her for weeks now. Is she going to get a rude awakening in terms of her alliances any time soon?
Yeah, I think eventually, for sure. I feel like she’s always been a little bit skeptical of Sidney only because he did come from being so deep in Regina’s pocket that it’s hard for Emma to believe that someone could really make that much of a turnaround. But she’s also in a town where she doesn’t have a lot of people who are on her side. So, sometimes I think she feels that she has to take the best-worst option. It’s like she knows that there may be something to be skeptical about with Sidney, and yet, he seems like the best possible option at this point. She almost has to force herself to believe that he’s going to be trustworthy because she has no other choice. He’s really the only person she has access to that can get her the information that she needs and to help her try to solve this case. But yes, at some point, she will definitely have a rude awakening in terms of how deeply he’s not supporting her.
The promo for next week reveals that Emma actually arrests Mary Margaret for Kathryn’s murder. Obviously, Mary Margaret has been Emma’s closest friend in Storybrooke up to this point, so what does this new development mean for their friendship?
It’s a really upsetting situation for Emma because clearly, she doesn’t think that Mary Margaret is guilty. And yet, there are seemingly tangible pieces of evidence that point to her. Emma’s sort of left with no option because if she doesn’t go where the evidence leads and actually make the arrest, then she looks like she’s offering some sort of favoritism to Mary Margaret, which then makes Emma look like she’s not doing her job properly, which then gives Regina a reason to fire Emma. So, there’s this domino effect of problems that would happen if Emma doesn’t follow through with what actually seems to be going on. In Emma’s mind, even though it’s a horrible thing to have to arrest this person who she truly does consider a friend and truly does believe in, she feels like she can protect her better by doing this than she can if she doesn’t do it, because then she could be fired and then someone else be put in that would really take her down.
I think you’ve said in the past that you guys want to avoid playing the parent/daughter dynamic in Emma’s scenes with Mary Margaret or David because you don’t want to be winking at the audience like any of them are really aware of something, correct?
Yeah, I think that she really doesn’t believe any of this at all. I mean, there’s no little part of her that thinks that what Henry has suggested to her with these fairytales being true could possibly be real. So, I can’t ever go into a scene thinking that she believes that. So her entire dealings with David or with Mary Margaret are always from the perspective of two people that she just met and treating them as two people that she just met. I do believe that she does feel drawn to both of them in some way. There’s some sort of underlying magnetism that she feels to them. But I think she just thinks that that’s because she thinks they’re good people and that she believes that they’re telling the truth, not because she thinks that there’s any deeper meaning of them being related.
In next week’s episode, we’ll also see Mr. Gold as Mary Margaret’s attorney. What are Emma’s feelings towards him at this point?
I think initially she’s very opposed to [Mary hiring him] because obviously she doesn’t trust him, for good reason. Ultimately, the dilemma that Emma always ends up having with Mr. Gold, sort of from this point on, is that she does not agree with his methods and she does not agree with the way that he goes about doing things, but she does agree with his results, oftentimes. She suspects that he has ulterior motives that are serving him, but those ulterior motives that are serving him are also serving Emma sometimes. So she, once again, has to sort of choose the lesser of two evils and decide if she’s going to go along with what he’s doing in order to get the results that she needs in order to protect the people that she wants to protect, or shy away from all of it and try to do all of it by herself.
I think the producers have indicated in previous interviews that there will be a resolution to the Kathryn storyline fairly soon. So in terms of where you’re filming now, has the balance shifted between Emma and Regina at all, or has Regina still got the upper hand?
By the point we’re at right now, it does start to balance out a little bit. There’s more and more building against Regina in terms of proof for other people in town to realize that maybe, she isn’t just a good mayor. Part of the curse has been that people have not questioned things; they’re sort of in this haze where they don’t really think outside of what’s been the norm from day to day for the last 28 years. Now, all of the things that have been set in motion because of Emma being in town are forcing people to sort of wake up a little bit at a time and go, “Wait a second, why would she do this?” So, Regina is starting to lose her footing in terms of her hold over everyone in town. There does start to be a little bit of a power shift — or at least some sort of a power balance — because once you plant those seeds of doubt then she’s definitely not as all powerful as she once was.
The March 25 episode will see Emma kidnapped by the Storybrooke version of the Mad Hatter. What can you reveal about that episode and what he wants from Emma?
It was probably the most fun I’ve had so far shooting episodes. It’s one of my favorite scripts. I had such an amazing time. Sebastian Stan, who plays the Mad Hatter, he’s such an extraordinary actor. It was so great coming to work with him every day. He did such cool stuff with his character. I mean, there was not a second I didn’t believe he really was this guy. So, from that perspective it was just such a good time.
It does start to plant some interesting seeds in Emma, because it’s another person saying to her some of the things that Henry has been saying. She can still justify it away in the sense that, “Well, maybe he read the book. Maybe there’s another copy of the book. Maybe he heard about the book.” But it is really the first time that there are little chips in Emma’s armor in terms of her thinking; not necessarily that there really is a curse and that everybody really is a fairytale, but I think it’s really that turning point for her to realize that there is something very dark and possibly dangerous going on that she needs to try to figure out.
We now know August’s name and that he’s a writer, but we don’t know much more than that. How are things developing between him and Emma?
Very slowly, but surely. I mean, she’s clearly very suspicious of him. He’s a stranger who’s come to town [and] he doesn’t offer a lot of information about himself. Emma relates to that — she’s someone who keeps to herself and doesn’t like to offer a lot of information about herself because she feels like she has a lot to hide. Because she’s aware of her own reasons for doing that, I think that makes her especially suspicious of him. So, I think the next several episodes you sort of start to see her test whether or not she can trust him. She allows him in, in little bits, and then pushes him away in other ways and sort of starts to kind of test the waters to see how trustworthy he is, where he really stands on things, and if he is safe or not for her or for Henry or for anyone. There’s definitely a bit of a dance that goes on there. You will find out by the end of the season who he is. But it’s going to be a little while.
Can you tease anything else about the story lines you’re currently filming?
I feel like the whole season — the way I’ve put it metaphorically is — we’ve been sort of climbing up the roller coaster. It’s been sort of like one notch at a time. Climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing. By the time we get to episode 20, we’re hanging at the top. At 21 and 22, we’re just flying down. So, all these little pieces of things that have been set up, all these little puzzle pieces that have been planted all along the way for the whole season, a lot happens really fast. All of it starts to come together very quickly. It’s going to be a whirlwind at the end.
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IGN: With Mary Margaret’s fingerprints, what does Emma do? This is her roommate and her friend at this point, but Emma’s also the sheriff.
Morrison: Yeah. Ultimately Emma is very confident that Mary Margaret is not doing anything wrong and that something weird is going on. But if Emma doesn’t follow the evidence and she doesn’t follow through with doing what’s right based on what’s being handed to her evidence-wise — even if it has been tampered with or even if Mary Margaret is being set up or something — at this point, I have to follow through with it because otherwise I won’t be doing my job properly. It will look like I’m having some sort of favoritism for Mary Margaret, and then Regina would have cause to fire me. Then if she’s able to fire me and put someone else in that position, then she would definitely have control over ruining Mary Margaret. So I think Emma sees it as a very upsetting and frustrating position to be in to have to see the evidence as floating towards this person she truly believes to be innocent and who she truly cares about. But at the same time, I think she’s relieved that she’s the one in an authority position because it’s the best way she could possibly hopefully protect Mary Margaret.
IGN: Does Emma have any reason to think Regina’s involved in this specifically yet?
Morrison: I don’t think she specifically is thinking Regina at this point. I just think that she is very confident that Mary Margaret is not capable of murder. So it seems to her that something is off and wrong and that someone is trying to set her up for some reason.
IGN: You have a very interesting, very different dynamic on the show where these two characters are your parents, but you simply don’t believe it. Emma and David have had a few more scenes recently, but it’s mostly been about this case. Are we going to see a little bit more bonding there?
Morrison: There’s not a lot of reason at this point in the show, unfortunately. There’s just these little bits and pieces that we hit with them, because of the case obviously. So I feel like people are definitely going to get to see little bits of their time together, but Emma really does not believe on any, even small, scale that this person could possibly be her father. So it’s not like she’s going into this time with David thinking, “Oh gee, maybe this guy’s my father.” He’s just this guy that Mary Margaret fell in love with who’s causing all sorts of trouble by not being honest with people, and now his wife — it’s like in Emma’s eyes he’s just sort of the center of a lot of complications.
IGN: Emma’s been there a few months now. Making the leap to “these are my parents” is obviously something massive, but do you think she’s started to at all maybe be a little more receptive to something being off in this town?
Morrison: I think she’s absolutely at zero with thinking there’s any chance of a curse. I think that she feels like that there’s something going on in terms of there being some sort of manipulation or some sort of framing of something going on and someone being set up. And I think she thinks politically maybe there’s some dark things going on and she doesn’t understand why or who or what exactly their motives are, but it’s all very reality-based for her. There’s just zero part of her that believes it has anything to do with a curse.
IGN: And is her relationship going to progress with August? Obviously, we have more reason that she does to be suspicious or very curious about what exactly he’s doing.
Morrison: She’s obviously very skeptical of August. August is someone who doesn’t offer a lot of information about himself, which is very similar to Emma. She’s always been very guarded and she’s kept a lot of her life private. And she did that because she felt like she had a lot to hide. So I think she’s assuming that August must have a lot to hide if she’s operating the same way. So she is definitely very skeptical of him. And we’re going to see this bit of a dance that goes on in terms of the push and pull of her trying to figure out if he’s trustworthy or not or if he has good motives or bad motives or no motives. To her, he’s really the wild card in the town right now. She’s got everybody else sort of figured out and kind of knows what alliances exist and where they stand or who to trust or who not to trust. But she still feels the jury is out on him.
IGN: The show’s interesting in that with the different stories and the different characters the tone can be very different depending on what you’re focusing on. There can be a more fanciful tale involving, say, the fairies. But in this past episode with Red Riding Hood, it’s pretty dark stuff with all the corpses in the snow. Is it fun for you to be on a show that can go back and forth like that?
Morrison: Yeah, I like that about the show in particular, because I feel like it’s a nice representation of how life is. Things can be very light and cheery, and then everything can change in a moment. I was just talking to a friend of mine who, very tragically, had a friend who was in a very terrible car accident, and their whole family’s life changed based on dealing with these obstacles: hoping that she’ll pull through and hoping she’ll be okay. And that was life changing in an instant. And I feel like there’s a lot of what you see on our show; there’s these vast extremes that can happen on any given day and how faith and help are involved in both extremes of good and bad and light and dark.
IGN: What is it that you think helped Once Upon a Time so quickly find a fanbase?
Morrison: You know, there’s always a bit of mystery to all of that. I used to get asked that about House all the time too. It’s one of those things where just every once in awhile all the puzzle pieces fit. And it is a bit of magic. It always starts with the writing and the writing on Once Upon a Time is so extraordinary and so inventive and so original. Then after that, it’s casting everybody appropriately and with actors that suit the characters in a way that people are going to feel they connect with them and that they all have chemistry with each other. Then it’s who’s directing and who’s production designing and it’s who’s costume designing. You know, it’s all those things. And ultimately, I also feel like it’s about the showunners having a really strong vision. Often times, there are very good ideas for pilots, and then the showrunners don’t have the guts to fight to keep the show or fight to make the show what it really needs to be. And I think on both House and Once Upon a Time I was shown examples of showrunners who had extraordinary ideas and followed it up with extraordinary writing and execution. And also, we’re willing to fight for their idea and willing to fight for the tone of the show and fight to maintain a certain quality and certain vision that is consistently put out every week. And both shows were really able to do that. I think that that often times is what you end up missing.
You might have a great pilot, and then the second episode is just sort of like, “Oh, it’s okay.” Then the third episode, “I don’t understand. It doesn’t seem like the same show anymore,” you know? So I feel like having that strong vision is a big part of the success of the first year of a show. And beyond that, I think it really is a bit of luck and magic.
We happen to be doing a show about fairytales in a time where we’re struggling financially and all sorts of political things are going on in the world. It’s a time where people are looking for glimpses of hope and are questioning their own faith and are looking for a bit of escape from these struggles. And I feel like Once Upon a Time is offering a little piece of that right now. I’ve said before, I don’t think it’s an accident that Snow White was released during the Great Depression and we’re now having this resurgence of Snow White tales and fairytales in a time that is being compared to the Great Depression.
IGN: Not being in the fairytale scenes, is it fun for you to see the episodes and that whole environment that isn’t part of your production day?
Morrison: Yeah! I really get to see that part of the show as an audience member, which is really nice. It’s really nice to be able to be removed and — even though I’ve read the scripts obviously — be removed enough from it to really visually be able to enjoy it as a true audience member. It’s kind of a nice luxury.
IGN: Besides the burgeoning mystery of what happened to Kathryn, is there anything else you can tease you’re excited for the fans to see coming up on the show?
Morrison: Honestly, I would just say as we get to episode 20, 21 and 22, so much happens so quickly. I’ve been saying it’s like we’re on a roller coaster and we’ve been climbing and climbing and climbing one notch at a time, and by episode 20 we’re kind of hanging at the top. Then at 21 and 22, it lets go, and you’re flying down. It’s just so many of the questions that have been posed and so many of the little intriguing things that have been planted throughout the seasons start getting answered, and the piece start coming together so quickly. A lot gets revealed very quickly, and you’re going to see a whole lot of the characters interacting and see how all these worlds are crossing over in a very specific way, very quickly.
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What to Expect | Could the episode’s title — “A Land Without Magic” — be hinting at a departure? “By the end of the season, we will get Emma to a place where she has to make some decisions about her future” in Storybrooke, teases executive producer Steve Pearlman. Meanwhile, co-creator Adam Horowitz hints that Mary Margaret and David’s tortured romance is “building to something… that we’re excited to share with you.”