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Exclusive Interview with Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis, the Once Creators

Very, very intriguing read!

The Voice Of TV: First of all, happy belated birthday, Eddy!

Eddy Kitsis: Thank you!

TVoTV: Second of all, congrats on the show and all its success. I’m so happy that it’s become such a hit and it must be amazing to see all the positive feedback. I know that at Comic Con and in interviews prior to the show’s debut, you spoke about why you think people should tune in. Now that you’re established and you have the ratings, what do you think it is that drew people in and has kept them coming back?

Adam Horowitz: I would never presume to get why people watch or don’t watch. All we can do – what we can continue to do since we’ve started – is tell the stories that we think are interesting and cool, and tell them the best way we know how…and hope they come along for the ride.  So far, the amount of people who watch the show has been incredibly humbling and gratifying.

TVoTV: You’ve done a really good job of incorporating both a mix of classic fairy tales such as Snow White and Cinderella and more modern fare such as Beauty and the Beast. Can we expect to see other modern stories like Aladdin or The Little Mermaid?

AH: We plan to continue to play with the various mythologies that we’ve already established on the show, and we also plan to dip into a couple of new ones as we move forward. We’re excited about that. We also have some surprises that have been a lot of fun for us to cook up and we hope the audience enjoys them as well.

EK: I think we reserve the right to delve into all of those places. As far as some of those go, we may not get to this year but hopefully some day, we will. We definitely would like to do The Little Mermaid and Rapunzel and Aladdin, and sometimes it’s just a matter of realization.

TVoTV: Right, like making sure it fits in the story and into the scope of the season…and at this point in time, I imagine you’re starting to flesh out the last few episodes. Are some of the mysteries from this year going to carry over, such as the broken glass coffin that we saw hidden under the sink hole?

AH: What we can say is that things like the glass coffin and the stranger – for example, who he is and what he’s doing there – are mysteries that we set up that we fully intend to answer this year. There are obviously ongoing things with the show that, if we’re lucky enough to get another season, we would want to continue…but we really want to kind of complete the story that we set out to tell for this first season.

TVoTV: Do you have an idea of where you want to take the show, given that things look pretty positive in terms of a second season?

EK: Adam and I definitely have an idea of what we want to do for season 2, and hopefully there will be little signs of that at the end of this season and the finale will kind of point towards where we’re going. As far as season 3 and season 4…I mean, we’re kind of giving ourselves freedom. We’re tackling it a season at a time and we have some big overarching things, but we don’t want any of those to restrict creativity. Because sometimes, you’ll think of something that would be great for season 4, but you get to season 4 and you’re like, “You know what, that’s not longer relevant.” So, we don’t want to be slaves to things we thought of three years earlier.

AH: What we’re trying to do is stick with the big ideas we’ve had since we came up with the idea for the show, but as Eddy said, allow ourselves the freedom to figure out the most enjoyable way for us to get to those places.

TVoTV: As someone who is just as interested in the creative side of TV as the performance side, I’m curious to know your method for bringing these stories to life. Do you have a certain process in terms of figuring out what to take from each fairytale?

EK: I think the way we kind of approach it is that we have a rough idea of an episode. For instance, we knew we wanted to do the Cinderella episode and we knew…our twist on it, of course, was that Mr. Gold – or Rumplestiltskin in fairytale land – sent her and made a deal with her. So we usually start with the fairytale side first, and then Storybrooke.

TVoTV: There are so many main cast members and secondary characters that have been explored and the ensemble vibe reminds me a lot of LOST – but I think Once is a little different in that certain characters, such as Emma, Snow and Regina, sort of ground the story. Do you anticipate having a LOST scenario where your main cast changes with the flow of the show, or do you see yourself really sticking to your core characters?

EK: It’s hard to say, because even in LOST, we introduced the tail section, and then we had Desmond and Ben Linus…but we still had Jack and Locke and Sawyer and Kate, and they were the staples and they were our heroes that took us through the story. So for us, Emma and Snow and Charming and Gold…these are core characters. But of course, you always want to bring more people for them to play with.

TVoTV: Let’s touch a little bit on Emma and her relationships. She finally opened up about her feelings just as Graham got killed, so is that going to play a role in how she reacts to other people?

EK: I think Emma’s struggle has always been to allow people in. We always said that Emma is a character looking for a home, because she’s never had one and she doesn’t know what it is. And I think that she’s always walled herself off emotionally, and therefore it’s really not until Henry comes…it’s the first time she starts to let people in. And I think Graham…when he died, it kind of made her remember. It’s a lot easier to not remember people, because then you don’t get hurt. But I think that Emma’s experience through the years, you know, having that wall come down and saying, “Okay, she does have a great friendship with Mary Margaret” – without realizing that’s her mom [laughs.] And beginning to see her care more about her, and becoming more of a mother to Henry. And so it’s slowly chipping away at her walls.

TVoTV: I love all the LOST actors you’ve been bringing into the fold – Alan Dale has been wonderful, and of course you have Emilie de Ravin’s episode coming up this week, which I’m so excited about. Is there a chance we could see more LOST alum in future episodes?

AH: Anything’s possible, but we had such a special experience on that show that anytime we’d want to bring someone over that we’re interested in, it would have to be exactly the right thing that everyone’s really excited about. Like with Emilie [de Ravin], it was just amazing to have her want to do this role, and it was so much fun to kind of come up with it and bring her in to our world here. We’re really excited for people to see her take on Belle.

EK: Obviously, we love all the LOST actors and we’d be honored to write for them again. It would just have to be the right role in the right situation.

TVoTV: Which is understandable! Speaking of casting, one of the strengths of this show is its phenomenal cast. Is there a favorite scene you’ve developed so far that you’ve loved watching come to life? Or something that looked awesome on paper but became even more awesome once certain actors read it?

EK: I would say honestly, every week we feel that. Our cast is so strong and they make Adam and I look so good. Every week and every day when we watch dailies, they just bring something to the material and what’s great is that now, almost a year later – because we’ve been working with them – it’s like we’re all kind of in sync. We have one thing in our mind, they have one thing in their mind, and then it comes together in this third way that’s even better. But we’re constantly mesmerized by what the cast does with the script. We really, truly believe they elevate it.

TVoTV: I love how they’re all just as close in real life as they are when they’re filming…it really comes across on the show.

EK: It’s great. They’re all really good friends and fun to be with, and we’re very lucky in that everyone who works on the show works really hard, including the crew who doesn’t get a lot of credit. They’re in the middle of the forest at 3am! Everyone really works hard because they love the show, and you can’t force that. It just kind of has to happen naturally…and we’ve been very lucky on this one.

TVoTV: Well, let me tell you, it definitely translates…you can tell when a crew and a cast and the writers love their show and put all their effort into making it the best it can be. Are there story lines we can look forward to? I know we’re going to learn more about the Evil Queen and her mother…are we going to see any other developments for our characters?

EK: I think we’re going to see some exciting stuff on the Storybrooke side. We’re going to see stuff develop. And as far as fairytale, we can tell you that we are going to be diving into Little Red Riding Hood’s back story…we are going to be showing you how Grumpy became Grumpy, we will, of course, eventually tell you why the Evil Queen hates Snow White…and we will tell you who the stranger is. We’re planning on a lot of fun episodes coming up.

TVoTV: [laughs] So basically, my head should just be ready to explode because I’m not going to know what to do with all my theories, right?

EK: We can only hope!

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Hulu to stream 9 PaleyFest events, INCLUDING Once Upon a Time!

The Paley Center for Media Announces PaleyFest 2012 Partnership with Hulu

Hulu to Stream Nine Panels Featuring TV’s Top Stars and Creators On-Demand

Beverly Hills, CA, February 22, 2012 - The Paley Center for Media today announced Hulu is a partner for PaleyFest 2012. As part of the agreement with PaleyFest, beginning March 15, Hulu will stream full-length content and short form clips exclusively on-demand from nine of the festival’s panels on the free, ad-supported Hulu and the Hulu Plus subscription service at

Hulu is the premier online video streaming service offering current season TV shows, classic series and acclaimed movies from more than 350 content partners, including five of the six major broadcast networks. Hulu will stream PaleyFest2012 panels featuring the casts of "Community," "Once Upon a Time," "New Girl," "The Office," "Bones," "Castle," "The Vampire Diaries," "Revenge" and "Modern Family." PaleyFest’s two-week celebration of great television runs March 2-14, 2012 at the Saban Theatre in Beverly Hills.

Tune in on March 4th, 4PM EST/1PM PT on Hulu for the Once Upon a Time panel including Edward Kitsis, Adam Horowitz, Steve Pearlman, Ginnifer Goodwin,  Jennifer Morrison, Robert Carlyle, Lana Parrilla, Josh Dallas, and Raphael Sbarge.


Dr. Whale’s identity to be revealed this season? Also, some spoilers on Belle, the Evil Quee’s mother, Henry’s father and the Big Bad Wolf!

Vampire Diaries and Alias star David Anders will also return later this season as the nefarious Dr. Whale, but his fairy-tale counterpart will not be revealed this season. His Alias costar (and Dollhouse and Angel actress) Amy Acker makes her OUAT debut in episode 14. “She is going to help tell the story of how Grumpy became Grumpy,” Kitsis says of Acker’s fairy character, Nova. 

Don’t worry, we didn’t forget about Belle (Emilie de Ravin), whose Storybrooke self is currently sittin’ pretty in a secret padded cell. “She has a nice little scene in 14,” Kitsis teases. “She’s sitting up there with the person who loves her, not realizing it, and that would be someone I would not want to piss off,” Kitsis says. Still, fans will have to wait a little longer for answers regarding Belle. “She’s going to be back probably more toward the end of the season,” Kitsis says. 

Finally, Barbara Hershey will guest star as Regina/the Evil Queen’s (Lana Parrilla) mother. Of her character, Kitsis would only say, “Evil is not born, it’s made. Her mother has a specific viewpoint about the world.” Horowitz adds, “Hopefully you’ll get a great insight into Regina and why she is the way she is.”

True Love Is Tough: The disappearance of David’s wife Kathryn (Anastasia Griffith) will throw a major wrench into his romance with Mary Margaret, with Kitsis saying, “This will definitely test them.” Horowitz adds, “David and Mary Margaret are really fighting a curse to be together and this is just another element of that.” Kathryn’s disappearance will be a major plotline through the next four or five episodes that’s going to take us “towards the mid-end season,” Horowitz says. 

Fret not, David and Mary Margaret fans! While it may seem that the obstacles the adorable couple must overcome are endless, Horowitz says, “We are building to something this season with them that we’re excited to share. There is a plan.” Kitsis adds, ”Their love is so strong that it keeps pulling them together no matter how hard we try and keep them apart.”

True love’s kiss has been known to break a curse or two on the show, so why didn’t David and Mary Margaret’s first kiss free them from Regina’s spell? “I think that when David and Mary Margaret kiss, it wasn’t an “Aha!’ moment for them because the curse hasn’t been broken yet and clearly they’re not the keys to breaking it, they’re just the keys to making the savior,” Kitsis explains. 

Backstory Glory: We all know how much the Evil Queen hates Snow White, but we don’t know why. Kitsis and Horowitz say viewers will finally learn what Snow White did to the Evil Queen in episode 18. Episode 19 will reveal more about Rumpelstiltskin (Robert Carlyle) and his relationship with his son. As for Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) father, don’t expect to find out his identity anytime soon, though the executive producers know who it is. Oh, and the Big Bad Wolf will be revealed in episode 15. No big deal, right?

Eep, so it appears Dr. Whale isn’t our Big Bad Wolf after all, is he? O.O

Uhm, who else is now more excited than ever? :D

Uhm, who else is now more excited than ever? :D

Reminder: Once Upon a Time on Paleyfest THIS afternoon!

Not going to PaleyFest in person?  Want to watch a livestream version of it as it happens? Catch the Once Upon a Time’s panel on PaleyFest’s -HERE- at 4PM EST/1PM PT.

Here’s the list of cast members who will be at the event:

Edward Kitsis, Creator/Executive Producer
Adam Horowitz, Creator/Executive Producer
Steve Pearlman, Executive Producer
Ginnifer Goodwin, “Mary Margaret Blanchard / Snow White”
Jennifer Morrison, “Emma Swan”
Robert Carlyle, “Mr. Gold / Rumplestiltskin”
Lana Parrilla, “Regina Mills / Evil Queen”
Josh Dallas, “David Nolan / Prince Charming”
Raphael Sbarge, “Archie Hopper / Jiminy Cricket”
Moderator: Matt Mitovich,

It’s here! Go watch the cast of Once Upon a Time on Paleyfest NOW!

You can go watch it live HERE.

Once Upon a Time finale title: A Land Without Magic.

Right from Mr. Adam Horowitz himself:


Does this mean our beloved Jamie Dornan is shooting today as The Huntsman? B)

Does this mean our beloved Jamie Dornan is shooting today as The Huntsman? B)

Q&A with Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz

As we head into spring, TV shows on the bubble start to cross their fingers and get superstitious in hopes of renewal. One of the shows still yet to hear their verdict is Once Upon a Time. Created by Lost alums, Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz (the writing duo who penned Tron Legacy), the modern-day dark twist on fairy tales started out strong, attracting nearly 13 million total viewers but has slumped to the 8.6-10.7 million range in the last 10 episodes. We shall see if it’s enough to earn a second season, but in the meantime, Kitsis and Horowitz continue to push forward as planned and keep audiences guessing as the show progressively gets darker and darker.

How has Once Upon a Time evolved? Has it gone the way you always envisioned or become something you didn’t originally think it would?

Edward Kitsis: Our dream was to tell certain stories like, why Grumpy became grumpy. Why does the Evil Queen hate Snow White? Tonight it’s why the Mad Hatter is mad. What’s great is through those shows you get to know everyone. We get to know Robert Carlyle. We get to know Ginnifer Goodwin, Jennifer Morrison, and Lana Parrilla and all the actors. They elevate the material. You start to writing to the things that they elevate. Then they elevate that. What happens is this unique kind of weaving and it takes a life of its own.

Adam Horowitz: A television show is an organic process. It’s made from an entirely talented group of people from the actors to the crew. We’ve been so blessed with everyone that’s involved. Because of that, what happens is you have your plans for things you want to do, but you also allow for the organic nature of the show to develop into what it kind of wants to be, you just try to stay true to what your vision for where you want to take the show but at the same time, allow for all the talented people you’ve got working for you (actors, set designers, costumes etc.) to bring amazing things.

Is there something special about babies or the children on the show?

EK: The rule that was set up was that everyone from the enchanted forest or that land can’t leave Storybrooke. Obviously the only two people are Henry and Emma and then there’s this new guy that came into town, whoever he is.

AH: It was never meant to be a force field that you bounce off of. It’s more along the lines of something that keeps you from going, or draws you back.

EK: Even in the pilot, Red said, “I should have gone to Boston.” Granny said, “I’m sorry my heart attack…” The trigger can be a family emergency. Your car can break down, it could be you giving birth.

AH: The comings and goings of the folks in Storybrooke is something we continue to explore and continues to play a part in the show.

Storybrooke appears to be this small town and often times it looks as if people are constantly meeting each other for the first time.

AH: I would say that the town isn’t as small as it first appears. We’re seeing a slice of the town, but there could always mean there’s much more there than we’re seeing at first.

EK: I spent my first nine years in town called Mankato, Minnesota, which is a small town of 50,000 people. But 50,000 people means you don’t always run into someone when you go to the grocery store or hardware store. We’re showing a small part of Storybrooke, I think and there’s always a sense of, we haven’t seen everybody yet but at the same time there’s a nice community.

Are we going to see more of Storybrooke turn against Regina slowly but surely, as more characters are added to the mix?

EK: One of the interesting things Emma does is get people to stand up to bullies, whether it’s Regina or injustices.

AH: What we’ve already seen is people are giving her a harder time than she ever had in the 28 years of the curse prior to Emma’s arrival. There’s no reason to think that won’t continue.

Having already seen Emile de Ravin (Lost) as Belle, Giancarlo Esposito (Breaking Bad) as The Mirror, Emma Caufield (Buffy: The Vampire Slayer) as the Blind Witch, and Amy Acker (Angel) as Astrid all guest-star on the show, what guest-stars can we expect in remainder of the first season?

EK: Tonight we have Sebastian Stan as the Mad Hatter in episode 117 “Hat Trick,” who is fantastic; we have Roger Daltry voicing the hookah-smoking caterpillar.

AH: We have some fun people we’re really thrilled to join the cast and Barbara Hershey (Black Swan) playing Regina’s mother in episode 118, “The Stable Boy” is something we’re very excited about.

Editor’s Note: “The Stable Boy” is where the audience will see where a lot of the pain The Evil Queen has comes from and answers that pivotal question Kitsis posed, why does she hate Snow White so much.

What can you tell us about The Mysterious Stranger / August Wayne Booth?

EK: The next three episodes (counting last week’s episode 116 “Heart of Darkness”) will drop more hints as to why he’s here.

AH: Before the finale you’ll know who he is and why (he’s in Storybrooke).

Are we going to see more of Rumplestilskin’s son?

EK: Yes. And you will understand what happened between them. I would say there is great stuff with Robert and the son, as to where it is–I would say not this season–perhaps.

AH: Or we might this season–perhaps. The character of Baelfire, Rumple’s son, does come back later this season, whether it’s in Storybrooke or in fairy tale land, how that plays out, we want to be a surprise.

EK: In other words, we want you to keep watching. [Laughs]


Okay, bring on the tears!

Okay, bring on the tears!